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Study Finds Higher Earthquake Risk from Wastewater Injecting than Fracking

Rig Zone -- Underground injection of wastewater produced by hydraulic fracturing and other energy technologies poses a higher risk of causing earthquakes that can be felt by people than the hydraulic fracturing process itself, according to a recent study by the National Research Council.

Carbon capture and storage (CCS) could potentially cause seismic events because significant volumes of fluids are injected underground over long periods of time. But because no large-scale projects are in operation, not enough information exists to understand the potential for these projects to cause earthquakes, according to the committee that wrote the report.

The study, sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy, examines the potential for technologies involved in shale gas recovery, carbon capture and storage

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Submitted Jun 16, 2012 By: mastermariner

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52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,397 Points:1,768,430 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 1:44:12 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse It is not nice to mess with Mother Nature.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:9,159 Points:778,875 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:55:26 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse "The earthquakes are less of a concern compared to the pollution that these toxic fracking chemicals pose to drinking water supplies." ================= LOL, Well that's good to know! Since there's no proven case of hydraulic fracturing has ever even come close to migrating thru a mile or more of rock layers to reach an aquifer, by PDQ's 'logic' there's no chance of the process causing an earthquake!
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,445 Points:1,665,645 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:18:58 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse NOT A SHOCKER!
carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:270,615 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 10:58:17 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse There is no telling what injecting carbon into the earth might do. We need legislation to block carbon capture from happening because we don't know the long term effects.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,209 Points:1,475,050 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 10:53:09 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse The earthquakes are less of a concern compared to the pollution that these toxic fracking chemicals pose to drinking water supplies.
batloverNM Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:3,947 Points:1,394,800 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:35:44 AM Ignore batloverNM Report Abuse Instead of CCS they should be converting the carbon in CO2 to fuel.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:7,078 Points:2,143,665 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 10:17:28 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse "...technologies designed to maintain a balance between the amounts of fluids injected and withdrawn, such as most geothermal and conventional oil and gas development, appear to produce fewer-induced seismic events than technologies that do not maintain fluid balance." Makes sense. This ought to be GOOD news, IF companies do their job correctly!
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,604 Points:1,761,590 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:19:59 AM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse When dealing with safety issues, err on the side of caution and proceed deliberately.
pscamp Champion Author Ottawa Posts:3,524 Points:500,735 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 7:55:45 AM Ignore pscamp Report Abuse yes, and 'the Flintstones' is an accurate portrayal
YaBassa Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,566 Points:543,825 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 6:58:44 AM Ignore YaBassa Report Abuse I'm sure the idiots will continue with the practice.
ReddevilNO Champion Author New Orleans Posts:3,481 Points:600,090 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 6:44:58 AM Ignore ReddevilNO Report Abuse Ok.
Joeski1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,202 Points:1,768,560 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 6:39:06 AM Ignore Joeski1 Report Abuse wastewater?? how could such a wonderful and cheap thing like fracking have such an undesirable and so plentiful by product??? can't we spread it on farm fields and use it as fertilizer?? it's 90% water.... ethanol corn won't mind... (and it will likely boo0st the octane..)
epf Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,469 Points:1,918,810 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 6:30:08 AM Ignore epf Report Abuse I'm afraid SBlouch is correct but we do know in NY State they are taking notice!
SBlouch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,836 Points:1,885,285 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 4:10:58 AM Ignore SBlouch Report Abuse As if this study will be make a difference.
Buckeyee Champion Author Maine Posts:4,767 Points:924,100 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 3:38:49 AM Ignore Buckeyee Report Abuse I want in on studing studies too, since the Feds are throwing our money away.
2bigtanks All-Star Author Akron Posts:772 Points:371,610 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:38:07 AM Ignore 2bigtanks Report Abuse I think I will go into business studying the studies. Works for everybody else.
RickF350 Champion Author Washington Posts:3,439 Points:707,635 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:18:28 AM Ignore RickF350 Report Abuse Wish I got paid to study stuff.
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,076 Points:1,535,190 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:12:56 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . More study is need...just the fact Mam.
hogfan24 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:2,123 Points:529,925 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:09:00 AM Ignore hogfan24 Report Abuse Ok
JBL2 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:2,551 Points:1,066,130 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:07:50 AM Ignore JBL2 Report Abuse surprise surprise
Rich1430 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:764 Points:277,500 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:05:13 AM Ignore Rich1430 Report Abuse I don't believe any of it. Environmentalists are liars.
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:7,292 Points:1,640,885 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:04:08 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse The greatest threat from fracking is the potential for ground water contamination from the really nasty chemicals they pump down the wells.
megadiesellv Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,474 Points:503,585 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:03:40 AM Ignore megadiesellv Report Abuse Maybe.
pachukdog1 Champion Author Pensacola Posts:1,830 Points:392,185 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:03:05 AM Ignore pachukdog1 Report Abuse odd
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:10,576 Points:2,034,945 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:02:55 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse Okay. More study needed.
fatfed Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,000 Points:503,140 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:02:47 AM Ignore fatfed Report Abuse I do not believe that
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:7,292 Points:1,640,885 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:00:00 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse The two go hand in hand. The real problem with fracking is the really nasty chemicals they use to kill bacteria which spoils the gas. They will be around for a very long time to contaminate ground water, etc.
Matt G Champion Author Boston Posts:4,668 Points:2,799,765 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:56:03 AM Ignore Matt G Report Abuse Baloney
DTrainCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:1,848 Points:1,445,600 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:55:46 AM Ignore DTrainCanada Report Abuse Fracking needs improvement ...
BJWI Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,554 Points:763,925 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:51:33 AM Ignore BJWI Report Abuse Pumping large quantities of water and fluids into the ground will have consequences besides a shortage of water.
lunarrv15 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:15,063 Points:2,410,085 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:48:55 AM Ignore lunarrv15 Report Abuse okay..interesting thanks for posting
hubcapLA Champion Author Louisiana Posts:3,905 Points:940,435 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:48:21 AM Ignore hubcapLA Report Abuse Sounds like an Obozo political sceem to get the wacko environmentalists vote.
hagar2935 Veteran Author Nevada Posts:315 Points:85,155 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:46:26 AM Ignore hagar2935 Report Abuse More studies are needed, but I have to believe that the danger is very minor.....
probedude2 Champion Author Akron Posts:12,693 Points:2,407,905 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:43:27 AM Ignore probedude2 Report Abuse That's supposedly causing all the mini earthquakes around Youngstown
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,907 Points:1,580,135 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:43:06 AM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse That's not a report; its a scam to get government funding. How can it be studied if it is qualified with "potentially," "not enough information exists," and "potential." The DOE is blowing away "their" money.
GAS1251 Champion Author Texas Posts:5,293 Points:1,653,910 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:42:06 AM Ignore GAS1251 Report Abuse Could we Inject Obama there?
WVUtailgater Champion Author Cleveland Posts:8,572 Points:1,726,255 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:41:53 AM Ignore WVUtailgater Report Abuse does anyone really know
ican2step Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:1,811 Points:452,400 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:36:58 AM Ignore ican2step Report Abuse Maybe the Mayans are right?
furiousfowl Champion Author Riverside Posts:16,975 Points:2,770,735 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:29:58 AM Ignore furiousfowl Report Abuse Lack of facts and full of conjecture
teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:22,375 Points:1,412,000 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:28:39 AM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse Don't worry folks. The OIL & GAS industry has hired enough "experts", shills and spin doctors. They can make this problem "go away" just by telling all of US this is not a REAL problem :0\ And for your amusement and entertainment, they perform smoke and mirrors tricks along with their bait and switch explanations .....:0\|
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,301 Points:1,956,230 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:28:36 AM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse There's something going on here but we don't know what it is, do we?
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ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:20,025 Points:2,178,305 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:25:48 AM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse Fracking induced earthquakes are baby quakes that won't break anything, lived in California. Besides not buying so much from China, we ought to be developing distribution systems for abundant, cheap and clean American natural gas. CNG should be our primary alternative to oil based fuels. CNG could easily replace diesel in heavy duty trucks, trains, city busses and construction equipment. This would reduce the price of diesel and free it up for use in high efficiency light trucks, cars and etc. In turn the price of gasoline would go down and could fuel new high MPG vehicles and become cheaper for the rest of us. North America could easily become energy independent and we would no longer have to send billions of dollars every year to OPEC and our enemies in Iran, Venezuela and etc. WE HAVE TO STOP BLEEDING DOLLARS ACROSS THE SEAS IN ALL DIRECTIONS!!!
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,561 Points:1,123,895 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:25:21 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse Yeah, right, uhuh.... Any other smoke?
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,881 Points:2,004,125 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:24:37 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Now it's earthquakes! What next, THE SKY WILL START FALLING??
gasmack Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,752 Points:679,840 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:24:32 AM Ignore gasmack Report Abuse Keep researching til definite conclusions can be reached.
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OWENALOTT Champion Author Appleton Posts:2,182 Points:500,095 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:21:51 AM Ignore OWENALOTT Report Abuse This is the world we live in, deal with it.
VetteFan Champion Author Indiana Posts:9,879 Points:2,056,180 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:20:17 AM Ignore VetteFan Report Abuse I'm not sure either one is good. It's a little like saying more people died from lung cancer than heart attacks. All the people in the studies died.
krobp46 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:2,853 Points:567,595 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:19:31 AM Ignore krobp46 Report Abuse All for an extra barrel of oil