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Jawbone Project Pits Energy Versus Golden Eagle and California Condor

Courthouse News Service --      KERN COUNTY, CA (CN) - In a windswept desert north of Los Angeles, the Sierra Club is fighting a big wind turbine project where California's critically endangered condors roost and protected golden eagles soar.
     "The project area is a historic habitat for the California condor," said Joan Taylor with the Sierra Club, contrary to the developers' report. "The report said the birds didn't roost there, but we know they do because they have collars and we track them."
     "The environmental study the companies published had no mitigations on how to prevent golden eagle deaths at all," she added.
     The 13,000-acre wind turbine project, generally called Jawbone, is located in the southern Sierra Nevada mountains in an area with regular winds rushing from the cool Pacific ocean up in

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ratboy1968 Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,622 Points:550,000 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:49:27 PM Ignore ratboy1968 Report Abuse And in the end, you just know who will win this fight....
wilbur_gas Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,702 Points:647,110 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:48:15 PM Ignore wilbur_gas Report Abuse I guess we should preserve something to pick our bones while the politicians pick our pockets.
dchiou Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,826 Points:793,965 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:46:10 PM Ignore dchiou Report Abuse we need to find that balance
tampacrvdriver Champion Author Tampa Posts:3,356 Points:713,185 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:44:00 PM Ignore tampacrvdriver Report Abuse Not good.
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:8,040 Points:1,695,090 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:41:42 PM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse Jawbone?????
OU8121959 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,714 Points:532,960 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:39:36 PM Ignore OU8121959 Report Abuse cool
V8power Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,821 Points:1,380,970 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:37:50 PM Ignore V8power Report Abuse So the the enviro-nuts are unhappy with wind turbines. Horse and buggy hurts horses so that's out. How about bicycles? Walking?
calripken_8 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,906 Points:660,165 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:35:29 PM Ignore calripken_8 Report Abuse Anything the Sierra Club says is totally agenda-driven, I don't believe a thing they say.
Soglaos Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:2,771 Points:741,155 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:35:12 PM Ignore Soglaos Report Abuse ok
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,474 Points:1,712,585 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:34:25 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse Came in here thinking this had something to do with the Bluetooth company... Oh well
darkknight1 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:4,340 Points:896,810 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:33:04 PM Ignore darkknight1 Report Abuse hmmmm
tco9436 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,777 Points:723,250 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:33:03 PM Ignore tco9436 Report Abuse those buirds dont stand a chance against big oil/big goverment
032946 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:19,865 Points:4,045,020 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:29:41 PM Ignore 032946 Report Abuse Big money will win in the end, no matter what the cost to the environment and the things that live in it.
RitaVespa Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,981 Points:792,260 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:27:37 PM Ignore RitaVespa Report Abuse wow. Focus more on solar energy than wind
bababooey2 Champion Author Hartford Posts:6,352 Points:1,303,590 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:23:43 PM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse make up your mind.
dieselme2011 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:2,605 Points:604,790 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:21:55 PM Ignore dieselme2011 Report Abuse Tough decision
dave1745 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,262 Points:739,000 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:16:26 PM Ignore dave1745 Report Abuse Crazy
straz Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,708 Points:540,385 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:15:20 PM Ignore straz Report Abuse Hard decisions
satrn38mpg Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,077 Points:1,054,990 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:14:48 PM Ignore satrn38mpg Report Abuse they need 2 be protected <><>
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:14:16 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse The small wind farm near us kills thousands of ducks and geese during the spring and fall migrations so protect the eagles and condors and find a safer way to harness wind power.
hagar2935 Veteran Author Nevada Posts:315 Points:85,155 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:13:19 PM Ignore hagar2935 Report Abuse The Sierra Club is a Known Terrorist Organization......
yeehaw1073 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,361 Points:1,849,675 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:11:46 PM Ignore yeehaw1073 Report Abuse no one is going to be happy with the outcome of this one...
Bezalel Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:12,103 Points:2,291,745 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:11:10 PM Ignore Bezalel Report Abuse rerun from yesterday
mikaye Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,839 Points:866,385 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:07:05 PM Ignore mikaye Report Abuse most projects fudge figures to imrove chances of granting permission to build
lmpski Veteran Author Boston Posts:431 Points:397,305 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:06:51 PM Ignore lmpski Report Abuse The Sierra Club now is a FAR cry from its inception.
bowler360 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,975 Points:500,525 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:05:15 PM Ignore bowler360 Report Abuse tree. hug it.
IUVidiot Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,590 Points:709,435 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:05:10 PM Ignore IUVidiot Report Abuse ok
pecos Champion Author Columbus Posts:7,730 Points:2,113,260 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:03:44 PM Ignore pecos Report Abuse Never gonna win against them.
DrivingFool2 Champion Author Appleton Posts:8,592 Points:1,606,090 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:03:19 PM Ignore DrivingFool2 Report Abuse Like we used to say in service on payday, they eagle s**ts
Tegger Champion Author Ontario Posts:3,128 Points:1,647,485 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:02:27 PM Ignore Tegger Report Abuse OK
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:873,340 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:01:19 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse There is no form of energy production that the Sierra Club likes.
heysailor Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:9,592 Points:2,334,620 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:01:14 PM Ignore heysailor Report Abuse I vote for the eagle. Wind turbines have a real downside for winged creatures. Find another way to do it - somewhere else.
iamforiu Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,575 Points:711,740 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:57:12 PM Ignore iamforiu Report Abuse ok
Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:14,161 Points:2,594,365 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:54:59 PM Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse Git 'em Sierra!!! Wind power is baloney!
bridgerunner Champion Author Virginia Posts:4,792 Points:1,007,810 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:54:53 PM Ignore bridgerunner Report Abuse If the Sierra Club is for it; it can't be good for your pocketbook.
katiek9 Sophomore Author Ontario Posts:229 Points:37,755 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:52:28 PM Ignore katiek9 Report Abuse ok
fire@53 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:11,833 Points:2,770,050 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:51:10 PM Ignore fire@53 Report Abuse No matter what someone does someone else does not like their choice. With all of the state governments passing legislation that so much energy has to be renewable what are the utilities to do?
CISA Champion Author Orange County Posts:5,946 Points:1,398,990 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:48:23 PM Ignore CISA Report Abuse I love it: people or the buzzard (called "condor" by the environmentalists as it sounds sexier than "buzzard". This is a reason CA is on the brink. Do we know if this is a mandated wind farm or one that makes economic sense?
carefrey Champion Author Orlando Posts:5,535 Points:1,159,485 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:46:09 PM Ignore carefrey Report Abuse Alrighty then!
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,999 Points:1,121,680 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:44:25 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse There we go again.
FOURXFOUR Champion Author Boston Posts:2,466 Points:1,247,205 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:44:04 PM Ignore FOURXFOUR Report Abuse cool
ByGuy Champion Author Dallas Posts:7,853 Points:1,709,240 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:43:58 PM Ignore ByGuy Report Abuse Lets face it...Sierra Club is against any energy progress. Period!
jcotaxi Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,760 Points:360,080 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:41:26 PM Ignore jcotaxi Report Abuse The Sierra Club would rather we drive our cars powered by imagination only!
Cheepo Champion Author Tampa Posts:9,889 Points:3,128,005 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:39:53 PM Ignore Cheepo Report Abuse There we go again, even wind energy is no good!!!!!!!!!
tessnlu Champion Author Missouri Posts:24,264 Points:1,107,240 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:37:14 PM Ignore tessnlu Report Abuse how sad [Edited by: tessnlu at 3/11/2012 7:37:39 PM EST]
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,008 Points:599,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:35:43 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
northerntruckgu Veteran Author Ontario Posts:495 Points:130,910 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:31:54 PM Ignore northerntruckgu Report Abuse balance we need balance
bluzer Rookie Author Virginia Posts:41 Points:14,645 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:30:05 PM Ignore bluzer Report Abuse The Condors will find another place to roost.
northerntruckgu Veteran Author Ontario Posts:495 Points:130,910 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:29:27 PM Ignore northerntruckgu Report Abuse go figure
sammy518 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,589 Points:539,790 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:29:09 PM Ignore sammy518 Report Abuse they must find a balance
car54BC Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,327 Points:1,256,755 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:23:07 PM Ignore car54BC Report Abuse The sierra club and those like them should be ignored
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,008 Points:1,112,420 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:21:01 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Sorry tony... that is not why California has high gas prices... please try again (grin)